The Saga of Tanya the Evil, Vol. 2: Plus Ultra

The Saga of Tanya the Evil, Vol. 2: Plus Ultra

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  • Author:Carlo Zen
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Summary

"Girl--this, this is war。"

After being reborn and becoming a magic wielding soldier in the Imperial Army, Tanya Degurechaff bemoans her fate of being placed at the very edge of the front lines instead of a comfy place in the rear。 Swearing revenge on Being X, she plunges head-first into battle, dragging her subordinate along with her!

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IIIIIIKKKKKEEEEE

See review of first volume

cameron

This series is fantastic

Ben

As I have seen in other reviews, this book reads a bit funky。 Something will happen or someone will say something and then the same thing will be written two paragraphs later but with different words。 Also the book drags on for some time。 More breaks within chapters would be great, especially considering how much of the book is internal dialogue。

Brandon

I wish I could rate this higher, as I did ultimately really enjoy it, but I just never felt compelled to read the book any day I picked it up。 It would take ages for me to finish a single chapter, as if I was slogging through it。 I was simultaneously interested and bored by the book, which is upsetting to say。 I own the third volume, and I do plan on reading it, but something about this series makes it harder to read than other light novels。 I guess because there's less dialogue, and because Car I wish I could rate this higher, as I did ultimately really enjoy it, but I just never felt compelled to read the book any day I picked it up。 It would take ages for me to finish a single chapter, as if I was slogging through it。 I was simultaneously interested and bored by the book, which is upsetting to say。 I own the third volume, and I do plan on reading it, but something about this series makes it harder to read than other light novels。 I guess because there's less dialogue, and because Carlo Zen is trying harder to write a unique story than rip off trope after trope like so many other writers。 There's a degree to which Youjo Senki feels like it's just way superior to other LNs that it prompts an awkward question: why read this when I can just read "real" literature? Or, another set of questions, why do I read LNs, and why do I read this series? Don't I read light novels because they are。。。 well, "light"? Would I not prefer the silly hijinks of e。g。 KonoSuba? Tanya's story provides interesting military action and weird application of economic principles to Tanya's view on her fellow people, but couldn't I get an approximation from reading military history and economic philosophy, and just continuing to be vaguely sociopathic myself, in real life [I jest, probably]?I guess what mostly gets me is how "episodic" these books feel。 This volume has the Dacian battle, the Norden battle, the naval training exercise, the submarine sinking problem, the Rhine front, the Arene insurgency, and a return to the Rhine to cover the Imperial army retreat。 The volume is about 400 pages long, roughly twice the length of the average volume of the average LN series。 To my mind, there isn't a real justification for this length, as the volume is functionally a collection of short stories linked together through chronological progress。 Tanya does some mission in some chapter, and the chapter will end with new orders for the next mission, but they are rarely cohesive。 At best, Tanya's battalion's performance at Norden inspired the idea to train the navy to combat enemy mages。 Otherwise, the events are largely disconnected。 Part of why the book felt like a "slog" was because of its length, and I don't feel like there was any reason not to cut it on half at the middle point。 I used KonoSuba as a counterpoint above, and those novels tend to be somewhat episodic as well, but they usually add up to a proper climax to tie each volume off。 Not so with Youjo Senki。 It's not a great problem, and I won't get upset at Carlo Zen, but the fact is that I simply prefer to finish LN volumes within a couple days, and it took me several months to bother finishing this one just because the length kept annoying me and I simply did not feel like powering through when the alternative, to just set the book aside for some weeks, always looked so pleasant。Anyway, I really liked the naval stuff here。 Tanya and her battalion fighting the enemy ships, but also the mock battle on the Imperial ship。 Maybe because I started playing Azur Lane sometime during one of my many hiatuses during the reading of this volume。。。。 。。。more

Bernard

Why did I read the second book when I knew that the first wasn't all that good? I thought it might go somewhere。。。That was a mistake。 This book is the same character being boring in a setting that is not particularly inspiring。I just don't see anything of interest here。 Read a real book on world war one, you will get far more out of it。 Why did I read the second book when I knew that the first wasn't all that good? I thought it might go somewhere。。。That was a mistake。 This book is the same character being boring in a setting that is not particularly inspiring。I just don't see anything of interest here。 Read a real book on world war one, you will get far more out of it。 。。。more

Kevin

Lots of explanation and repetition I only enjoyed this because I watched the anime first。 The book is filled with over-explaining, although it feels better than the first book。 Possibly because I learned how to skim。 There’s even an entire first section of a chapter that just goes over what’s going to happen in the next 3/4ths of the chapter。 It’s maddening! And then the author talks about how many pages this book is in the afterward。 If you’re a fan of the anime and want to see the events from Lots of explanation and repetition I only enjoyed this because I watched the anime first。 The book is filled with over-explaining, although it feels better than the first book。 Possibly because I learned how to skim。 There’s even an entire first section of a chapter that just goes over what’s going to happen in the next 3/4ths of the chapter。 It’s maddening! And then the author talks about how many pages this book is in the afterward。 If you’re a fan of the anime and want to see the events from Tanya’s point of view, then it’s worth, but it’s still a slog。 Covers middle episodes of the series (Vol 3 should cover the last few episodes, and Vol 4 the movie, but don’t quote me on that。) 。。。more

Major Flamboyant

This one is about as mediocre as the first one。 It takes incredible skill to make war crimes and civilian massacres as bland as this book did。 The way the author tries to make Tanya justify committing a war crime 'legally' was pretty cool, but the rest of the book was flat throughout。I'll probably pick up the other installments because the next season of the anime is going to take ages to release, and I am curious what happens eventually。 It's just a slog to go through。 The anime is the superior This one is about as mediocre as the first one。 It takes incredible skill to make war crimes and civilian massacres as bland as this book did。 The way the author tries to make Tanya justify committing a war crime 'legally' was pretty cool, but the rest of the book was flat throughout。I'll probably pick up the other installments because the next season of the anime is going to take ages to release, and I am curious what happens eventually。 It's just a slog to go through。 The anime is the superior version of this franchise。 。。。more

Inho

More fun from Carlo Zen, a lot like book one but without the slightly dull set up at the start。

Nicole Westen

Someone needs to tell Tanya that deciding to model your behavior on that of an ardent nazi categorically makes you not a good person。

Howard

Just as good as the first and a deeper look into war。

LiteratureIsLife

Read this review (and others) at: https://literatureislife。com/2019/10/。。。Like the first volume, Plus Ultra is long for a light novel。 None of the books in The Saga of Tanya the Evil are quick reads。 They take about as long as a standard western novel。 For readers who watched the anime first, Plus Ultra goes from partway through Episode 5 to partway through episode 11。 There is also a side story at the end which the anime shows at the end of Episode 2。 This is where The Saga of Tanya the Evil di Read this review (and others) at: https://literatureislife。com/2019/10/。。。Like the first volume, Plus Ultra is long for a light novel。 None of the books in The Saga of Tanya the Evil are quick reads。 They take about as long as a standard western novel。 For readers who watched the anime first, Plus Ultra goes from partway through Episode 5 to partway through episode 11。 There is also a side story at the end which the anime shows at the end of Episode 2。 This is where The Saga of Tanya the Evil differs from many other anime adaptions of light novels。Typically, an anime adapted from a light novel tries to match pace with the books。 This series does not do that。 The end of an episode does not necessarily coincide with the end of a chapter。 The pacing is readjusted for the anime adaption and while that is not necessarily a bad thing, it is unusual。 That being said, it could even be viewed in a positive light depending on your outlook。 The alternate narrative techniques used by the anime tell the same story, but in a different way。 While the book has more focus on geopolitical analysis, the anime more focuses directly on fighting and warfare。With all that in mind, Plus Ultra continues to be an already impressive series。 This is the point in the story where WWI and WWII analogies start to mix。 The first book showed more of the WWI side of things with notions such as the geographic location of the Not-Europe nations and trench warfare。 Plus Ultra starts driving WWII-era points home, such as the application of new technology and tactics on the battlefield。 All of this is obvious to Tanya, who is from Earth and has knowledge of WWII history。 But to everyone else in the world, this is all new。The Empire is newly established as a potential world superpower。 However, they are surrounded by other countries on all sides。 While their country is not landlocked, areas the size of the English Channel are the only waters between them and other nations。 Some of these other nations are superpowers and want to prevent the Empire from becoming one as well。 This is where The Saga of Tanya the Evil differs from real history。 The Empire (Not-Germany) is always the defender (thus far)。 They have yet to attack first。 And their military leaders 100% expected any potential wars to happen that way。 How their plans of national defense will ultimately turn out in the face of a reacting enemy remains to be seen。 。。。more

Cinnamon

เล่มนี้สงครามเข้มข้นและหนักหน่วงขึ้น หน่วยพิเศษของทาเนียถูกส่งไปทำภารกิจเสี่ยงตายแบบไม่มีเว้นพัก ทาเนียเองก็ยังดิ้นรนกับการเอาชีวิตรอด + สร้างภาพ เอ้ย สร้างผลงานต่อไปอย่างเลี่ยงไม่ได้ สนุกค่ะ เล่มหนามากก แต่ไม่น่าเบื่อเลย มุกตลกประชดประชันก็ยังฮาได้อีก แหม อย่างเห็นทาเนียจังในชุกคอร์เสตจังค่ะ 😂😂😂

Marcelo Ishikame

Muito bom mas de light nao tem nada xD

S。Q。 Eries

This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it, click here。 In SummaryCarlo Zen’s longwinded prose continues to test the endurance of those who would read about his alternate world。 (He even admits in the afterword that this volume is a bit thick。) However, if you’re willing to take on this 406-page behemoth, you’ll be rewarded with a Norden battle and a Republican Front “training exercise” that weren’t included in the anime。 In addition, you’ll know all the details that lead up to each of 203rd Battalion’s orders— whether you’re interested or not。The Re In SummaryCarlo Zen’s longwinded prose continues to test the endurance of those who would read about his alternate world。 (He even admits in the afterword that this volume is a bit thick。) However, if you’re willing to take on this 406-page behemoth, you’ll be rewarded with a Norden battle and a Republican Front “training exercise” that weren’t included in the anime。 In addition, you’ll know all the details that lead up to each of 203rd Battalion’s orders— whether you’re interested or not。The ReviewThe second volume of The Saga of Tanya the Evil is as much about Tanya’s newly formed battalion, the 203rd Aerial Mage Battalion, as it is about Tanya。 The battalion’s very existence came about because of Tanya, and its fate is intricately connected to hers。 While Tanya often curses Being X, there is no real dialogue between mortals and immortals in this installment。 It’s all about human actions, individual and corporal, and as the beleaguered Empire faces enemies on three sides, it sends the 203rd jumping from front to front。As in the anime, the 203rd first obliterates a Dacian invasion and then gets sent to Norden before finally going to the Republican Front。 As a result, the book starts with a positive tone, which gets progressively darker as battle conditions worsen and enemies get tougher。 Meanwhile, Tanya continues to be misunderstood by friend and foe alike; no one would think that she wants peace more than anyone。Although the situations Zen sets up in Volume 2 are quite intriguing, his particular writing style requires effort to slog through。 Just as in Volume 1, the text is plagued with abrupt POV shifts and lack of dialogue tags。 On top of that, Zen has a tendency to overexplain the decisions of military and state heads。 In addition, the narrative is full of redundant statements。 So even though the reader winds up learning exactly what everyone’s doing and how they came to that plan of action, reading all that minutiae gets tedious。However, there are fun bits。 While the anime delves into the training of the original 203rd members, it glosses over the raw recruits that the battalion receives AFTER arriving on the Republican Front。 Tanya’s praises to the shovel rather remind me of the way the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy hails the towel。 The new recruits’ baptism by fire in the trenches did not get animated, but reading about it from Second Lieutenant Warren Grantz’s perspective was thrilling。Another Volume 2 arc that wasn’t included in the anime is the botched Norden-Commonwealth smuggling attempt on the high seas。 Although the text flowed like cold tar and Zen takes a ridiculous amount of time before revealing the ultimate fate of the Commonwealth submarine, this skirmish is a gripping collision of coincidences and mistakes from everyone involved。 If Zen could somehow streamline his writing, it would definitely make for on-the-edge-of your-seat reading。Extras include a map and fold-out illustration in color; appendixes explaining military strategy and history timeline; author afterword; and six black-and-white illustrations。For more manga and book reviews, drop by my blog Keeping It In Canon! 。。。more

Ricardo Matos

The story of Tanya, the Evil, continues strongly。 While the previous book focused a lot on how Tanya came to be what she is, this one focuses on how she manages her Batallion and her missions during the early stages of the World War that is inevitably coming。The book is rather large for a LN, 400 pages of small font text。 It is split into several battles and focuses on how new tactics and new tech keep changing the way wars are fought。 The author is really great at going over the same event from The story of Tanya, the Evil, continues strongly。 While the previous book focused a lot on how Tanya came to be what she is, this one focuses on how she manages her Batallion and her missions during the early stages of the World War that is inevitably coming。The book is rather large for a LN, 400 pages of small font text。 It is split into several battles and focuses on how new tactics and new tech keep changing the way wars are fought。 The author is really great at going over the same event from different points of view and not making it boring。 That event in a battle is interpreted/seen/felt completely differently by the generals, the soldiers, the 3rd players or the civilians。Lots of politics, strategy, logistics。。。 not for everyone, but a solid "what if" book! 。。。more

Jorge Rosas

This one was larger than its immediate books and the author even mentions that on the afterword, I learnt a lot of management and economic principles here, those are just mentioned but with a little research made a valuable contribution to my knowledge, having said that this book was great, lots of action and it’s still a little bit still confusing at some parts to discern who’s talking but that’s just the author’s style; this world is somewhere between our two World Wars and the Tech is showing This one was larger than its immediate books and the author even mentions that on the afterword, I learnt a lot of management and economic principles here, those are just mentioned but with a little research made a valuable contribution to my knowledge, having said that this book was great, lots of action and it’s still a little bit still confusing at some parts to discern who’s talking but that’s just the author’s style; this world is somewhere between our two World Wars and the Tech is showing that, it establishes the bases for a splendid move on the next book and the Norden campaign was impressive。 。。。more

Miracle152004

"Girl--this, this is war。" After being reborn and becoming a magic wielding soldier in the Imperial Army, Tanya Degurechaff bemoans her fate of being placed at the very edge of the front lines instead of a comfy place in the rear。 Swearing revenge on Being X, she plunges head-first into battle, dragging her subordinate along with her! "Girl--this, this is war。" After being reborn and becoming a magic wielding soldier in the Imperial Army, Tanya Degurechaff bemoans her fate of being placed at the very edge of the front lines instead of a comfy place in the rear。 Swearing revenge on Being X, she plunges head-first into battle, dragging her subordinate along with her! 。。。more

Aaron

Whether crawling through the mud-caked trenches of the Rhine or hovering over the freezing waters off the coast of Norden, battalion commander and major Tanya von Degurechaff is a beast that refuses to die。 She is a murderer and a devil, but she is also the greatest civil servant the Empire has ever known。 And while the deprivations of war often expose the limitations of human candor, it goes without saying that Major von Degurechaff proves time and again that no matter how far one falls there i Whether crawling through the mud-caked trenches of the Rhine or hovering over the freezing waters off the coast of Norden, battalion commander and major Tanya von Degurechaff is a beast that refuses to die。 She is a murderer and a devil, but she is also the greatest civil servant the Empire has ever known。 And while the deprivations of war often expose the limitations of human candor, it goes without saying that Major von Degurechaff proves time and again that no matter how far one falls there is yet farther to go if one must meet her end。THE SAGA OF TANYA THE EVIL #2 is an unwaveringly dense and insanely pragmatic courtship of war as an academic enterprise。 For readers that could not get enough of the administrative track race of the first book, this second book will prove ever the more intriguing。 However, for readers desiring a more concerted and experiential balance between administrative garrulousness and actual war, there may be some disappointment。Tanya covers a lot of ground in this one。 She and her augmented battalion trounce a backwater rebellion in the south; she and her soldiers find combat over the northern sea and conduct clandestine operations there; she journeys back to the Rhine front, at times griping about how she gets stuck with numbskull new recruits; she gets sent on an emergency dispatch to a hot zone in the northwest to commit to actions only a hair's breadth away from a massive war crime; and on and on。 Suffice to say, there's a lot going on。 Thankfully, the author has organized the text in a far superior manner than in the first book, thus making each of these exploits a good deal lot easier to track, assess, consume, and if necessary, adjudicate。 A big kudos must also go to the translator; interpreting and writing this was book in a completely different language was surely a daunting effort。Thematically speaking, this novel series is one part indefatigably amusing and one part egregiously cynical, as it judges the failures of newly militarized humankind through the eyes of a child but the intellectual locus of a world-weary adult。 To wit, THE SAGA OF TANYA THE EVIL #2 prevails as an exercise in negotiating with nightmares。 Tanya concedes the dangers of onward still, but she does not refute the necessity of doing so。 Tanya acknowledges the corrosiveness of willfully slaughtering innocents, but she does not ignore the depth of humanity required predict its inevitability。 Tanya fears "psychological contamination" at the hands of her tools of war, but knows that if she is to survive, then she has no choice but to endure。 If there's anything to criticize, it would be the author's occasional skipping of otherwise keenly dramatic moments in favor of a summary。 It's a contradictory change of pace, given the established writing style。 Worse yet, this can occur precisely when it's needed most: Tanya is called into a court martial。 It would have been astounding to witness Tanya defend her battlefield actions in a legal context。 But alas, Zen instead decides to wage the legal conflict as an internal dialogue (and often during the battles themselves), meaning that when the time arrives for Tanya to visit the army military court, it is only as a formality。 It's kind of a bummer。 It also wastes a tremendous quantity of dramatic irony, considering there are multiple times in which Tanya changes the direction of the war without ever knowing it!Also, while the structure and organization of THE SAGA OF TANYA THE EVIL #2 is vastly improved over its predecessor, it remains true that the level and quantity of actual combat that Tanya sees is considerably limited until the latter half of the book。 As grisly and chaotic as the Tanya-at-war moments happen to be, they are what give this novel series its charm。 Needing to wade through 230 pages of sometimes-action and various diplomatic sorcery, just to get to the good stuff, can be frustrating。 On the plus side, the cast expands。 Tanya picks up First Lieutenant Weiss, a dedicated but erstwhile glory-seeking second-in-command, as well as second lieutenant Warren Grantz, a recruit fresh from the training grounds who becomes the Shakespearean chorus after so much dread threatens to submerge the narrative with war dogs fit for hell itself。 Regrettably, readers don't get to see much of Tanya's reliable adjutant, second lieutenant Viktoriya Ivanova Serebryakov。 Hopefully, Visha will take on a larger role in future stories。 。。。more

Mark

Good continuation I felt that this one was a little short in comparison to the first one but still enjoyed nonetheless, my only gripes are that a couple images are missing from this release and that wait is so long for the final part。

TG Lin

剛看完動畫,於是便到圖書館去借原著小說來看。然而第一集已在書架上「消失」了,因此只能從第二集開始看起。本書的故事,是從女主角(某大叔)已經成了魔導大隊的指揮官,並從達契亞的「郊遊」開始寫起,經過北方戰場(諾登)的敵後登陸戰的勝利之後,一直到了西方萊茵戰線的撒退戰作為本書故事的結束。 這部小說給人的第一印象是︰完全不像時下的「輕小說(Light-novel/ラノベ)」,一冊書居然有五百多頁!作者在後記當中,也自我嘲諷了一番;當然包括他所取的這個「政治不政確」的書名——因此在對岸的支那大陸上,本書必須改名為《譚雅戰記》以免遭到官方的河蟹。 與改編的動畫內容相比,原著小說有幾點不同︰ 1。 原著小說當中,作者個人對現實世界的「吐嘈」篇幅非常多,一堆歷史事件與人物,常常作為女主角(某大叔)的心中獨白而佔了相當大的篇幅。作者常把美國的麥克阿瑟拿來開涮,並對於共產主義社會中的經濟浪費十分不爽。 2。 正因為小說有較多的女主角(某大叔)的評論,因此動畫裡頭便減少這種不適合作為「影像化」的橋段,並大量增加女主角(某大叔)魔導團隊與敵人戰鬥的場面。因此,瑪麗蘇的老爸,在這一集的小說並沒有太多著墨,連被女 剛看完動畫,於是便到圖書館去借原著小說來看。然而第一集已在書架上「消失」了,因此只能從第二集開始看起。本書的故事,是從女主角(某大叔)已經成了魔導大隊的指揮官,並從達契亞的「郊遊」開始寫起,經過北方戰場(諾登)的敵後登陸戰的勝利之後,一直到了西方萊茵戰線的撒退戰作為本書故事的結束。 這部小說給人的第一印象是︰完全不像時下的「輕小說(Light-novel/ラノベ)」,一冊書居然有五百多頁!作者在後記當中,也自我嘲諷了一番;當然包括他所取的這個「政治不政確」的書名——因此在對岸的支那大陸上,本書必須改名為《譚雅戰記》以免遭到官方的河蟹。 與改編的動畫內容相比,原著小說有幾點不同︰ 1。 原著小說當中,作者個人對現實世界的「吐嘈」篇幅非常多,一堆歷史事件與人物,常常作為女主角(某大叔)的心中獨白而佔了相當大的篇幅。作者常把美國的麥克阿瑟拿來開涮,並對於共產主義社會中的經濟浪費十分不爽。 2。 正因為小說有較多的女主角(某大叔)的評論,因此動畫裡頭便減少這種不適合作為「影像化」的橋段,並大量增加女主角(某大叔)魔導團隊與敵人戰鬥的場面。因此,瑪麗蘇的老爸,在這一集的小說並沒有太多著墨,連被女主角(某大叔)戳死都不太醒目;但在動畫裡卻,瑪麗蘇的老爸卻成了女主角(某大叔)在這段期間內的重大對手,有好幾幕轟轟烈烈的對抗場景。 3。 小說裡頭,女主角(某大叔)在戰場上常常在心中盤算,如何才能將部下作為「肉盾」而讓自己保全。動畫裡,這種心計被刪掉,只見到女主角(某大叔)身先士卒、親身上前——小說描寫到,因為魔導師這種快速飛行的目標,衝第一個並不容易被敵入炮火打中,反而是其後的跟隨者才容易被炮手瞄準修正而喪命…… 4。 關於「亞雷努屠城事件」。小說中,女主角(某大叔)是在長官面前倡議「鑽法律漏洞」,以規避「屠殺非戰鬥人員」的問題。但這樣的劇情可能對悠木碧太殘忍了,於是動畫裡頭,女主角(某大叔)則是「被動地」接受長官的指令,千百個不願意地去執行屠殺平民的命令,完全洗白了。 5。 北方的協約同盟政府崩潰後,政府評議員搭乘聯合王國(影射英國)的潛艇流亡過程當中,被女主角(某大叔)碰巧遇上並擊沉。由於這段故事牽涉到國際之間對於「中立國」的法律討論,因此動畫全刪了。 ---這部作品的故事,完全地符合了軍武宅的興趣,主角沒有太多戰鬥方面的敵人,因此重點可以擺在更大層次上的國家總體局勢討論上。 不過就「小說」的文字來講,我覺得這並不是一部「好」的小說。主要的問題有兩方面︰ 視角轉移混亂與突兀——主角第一人稱、第三人稱、某配角的觀點,常在同一節的篇幅中任意切換。 想要強調重點的「文字癌」太多——「如字面上的意義」這個詞用得太泛濫。以前學長在設計海報時告訴過我的︰「如果所有都是重點,那就沒有重點了」。 。。。more